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Dubby
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Posted - 07/28/2010 :  13:42:31  Show Profile Send Dubby a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/more/07/26/most.hated.teams2/

SI updated their top 25 Most Hated Teams of All Time which now includes the 2010-2011 Miami Heat at 25.

They have 15 2005 SC and couple of Miami teams 1-1986 and 11-1990, teams as well other assorted members none not of much a surprise.

The surprise for me IMO.

17 1993 Notre Dame football

I could see 1977

Also where's Nebraska 1997

Gilbert Cavs team President owns Fathead and he lowered the price on Lebron fathead to $17.41. The significance of 1741 was that was the year Benedict Arnold was born.

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Irishmark
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quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/more/07/26/most.hated.teams2/

SI updated their top 25 Most Hated Teams of All Time which now includes the 2010-2011 Miami Heat at 25.

They have 15 2005 SC and couple of Miami teams 1-1986 and 11-1990, teams as well other assorted members none not of much a surprise.

The surprise for me IMO.

17 1993 Notre Dame football

I could see 1977

Also where's Nebraska 1997



Dubby,

Both of the examples given hurt your Penn State Lions.

I don't know why they specifically singled out 1993.

Also, I wouldn't see Nebraska there at all.

interesting that Jimmie Johnson is #1 and #3.


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Dubby
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Posted - 07/28/2010 :  15:56:00  Show Profile Send Dubby a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irishmark

quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/more/07/26/most.hated.teams2/

SI updated their top 25 Most Hated Teams of All Time which now includes the 2010-2011 Miami Heat at 25.

They have 15 2005 SC and couple of Miami teams 1-1986 and 11-1990, teams as well other assorted members none not of much a surprise.

The surprise for me IMO.

17 1993 Notre Dame football

I could see 1977

Also where's Nebraska 1997



Dubby,

Both of the examples given hurt your Penn State Lions.

I don't know why they specifically singled out 1993.

Also, I wouldn't see Nebraska there at all.

interesting that Jimmie Johnson is #1 and #3.



1997 Nebraska pulled a win from the jaws of certain defeat with the come from behind miracle in Columbia infamous batted and kicked football which touched the ground and caught for the tying TD to send the game into OT. Nebraska won 45-38. Two weeks later Nebraska once again had to pull victory from the Jaws of certain defeat Vs 5-5 Colorado pulling the game out 27-24.

Nebraska throttled Texas A&M 54-15 and Tennessee 42-17 and proceeded to whine their way into split National title with Michigan. Nebraska got the Sears Trophy.

Michigan on the other hand beat 10-3 Ohio St, 8-5 Wisconsin team and 11-1 Wazzu in the Rose Bowl down the stretch. No miracle comebacks or poor efforts Vs sub .500 team. Their thanks was Nebraska was able to whine their way into split National title with them talking about the past two games they'd played. While ignoring they fact they were almost beaten in two of last three regular season games they played. Also lost in the Nebraska whine and cheese was an early season struggle at home Vs 5-6 UCF lead by one Duante Culpepper. Nebraska won 38-24 in game that was in doubt until late.

I'm firm believer in you should look at the entire body of work and not just the last game or two played for saying this clearly shows as the best team in the country.

That's why I mentioned 1997 Nebraska.

Sorry bob. I didn't buy Nebraska was best team in 1997 and whinnying about who would you want to play off the Tennessee and aTm games while ignoring the UCF, Missouri and Colorado games. The CU and Mizzou games all came couple weeks prior to the aTm game.


Gilbert Cavs team President owns Fathead and he lowered the price on Lebron fathead to $17.41. The significance of 1741 was that was the year Benedict Arnold was born.

Edited by - Dubby on 07/28/2010 19:29:52
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Drunk Mick
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1993 is a very odd year to have as ND's most hated team. They were underdogs all year long because everyone thought they would fall apart after losing Mirer, Bettis and Brooks. Yet all they did was win. Even dominating the supposedly unbeatable punks from FSU most of the game. Who showed up to ND Stadium wearing green and gold outfits with shamrocks.
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observer50
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quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

quote:
Originally posted by Irishmark

quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/more/07/26/most.hated.teams2/

SI updated their top 25 Most Hated Teams of All Time which now includes the 2010-2011 Miami Heat at 25.

They have 15 2005 SC and couple of Miami teams 1-1986 and 11-1990, teams as well other assorted members none not of much a surprise.

The surprise for me IMO.

17 1993 Notre Dame football

I could see 1977

Also where's Nebraska 1997



Dubby,

Both of the examples given hurt your Penn State Lions.

I don't know why they specifically singled out 1993.

Also, I wouldn't see Nebraska there at all.

interesting that Jimmie Johnson is #1 and #3.



1997 Nebraska pulled a win from the jaws of certain defeat with the come from behind miracle in Columbia infamous batted and kicked football which touched the ground and caught for the tying TD to send the game into OT. Nebraska won 45-38. Two weeks later Nebraska once again had to pull victory from the Jaws of certain defeat Vs 5-5 Colorado pulling the game out 27-24.

Nebraska throttled Texas A&M 54-15 and Tennessee 42-17 and proceeded to whine their way into split National title with Michigan. Nebraska got the Sears Trophy.

Michigan on the other hand beat 10-3 Ohio St, 8-5 Wisconsin team and 11-1 Wazzu in the Rose Bowl down the stretch. No miracle comebacks or poor efforts Vs sub .500 team. Their thanks was Nebraska was able to whine their way into split National title with them talking about the past two games they'd played. While ignoring they fact they were almost beaten in two of last three regular season games they played. Also lost in the Nebraska whine and cheese was an early season struggle at home Vs 5-6 UCF lead by one Duante Culpepper. Nebraska won 38-24 in game that was in doubt until late.

I'm firm believer in you should look at the entire body of work and not just the last game or two played for saying this clearly shows as the best team in the country.

That's why I mentioned 1997 Nebraska.

Sorry bob. I didn't buy Nebraska was best team in 1997 and whinnying about who would you want to play off the Tennessee and aTm games while ignoring the UCF, Missouri and Colorado games. The CU and Mizzou games all came couple weeks prior to the aTm game.





In fairness, Michigan struggled mightily against 4-1 Iowa, who finished the season at 7-5. It took a touchdown with under 3 minutes left to beat them 28-24.

IMO, Nebraska disqualfied themselves from consideration with the Missouri game. Not only did it take an illegal play to get them to tie the game, going to overtime is a no-no for me. An overtime win for an undefeated team is a partital blemish to me, as is an overtime loss not as bad.

What's funny about that year is that at the time most people were pretty sure that Michigan was the better team. In retro, people only remember the close bowl game Michigan had, and Nebraska's blow out and people think Nebraska would have won easily. People tend to remember just your last game, a phenomenon we witness this year with Terrell Pryor.
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*MVP* Aloha Nole
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I honestly think Osbourne's retirement announcement had much more to do with the Husker's receiveing a share of the title that season than all other factors that have been discussed here. It's funny, but Michigan was a clear cut #1 in both polls until Dr. Tom's announcement. Most people seemed to consider the Mizzou game a loss before that.

I'm not sure why, but I fully expected that after the season ended, and Nebraska had their split title, that Osbourne would announce "that after careful consideration during the off-season and tryig to imagine my life after football, that I cannot leave Coaching at this point."

"Ward. Takes the snap. Play action. Drops, looks, popped out of the pocket. Runs to his left, throws it downfield it is CAUGHT BY DUNN, HE'S GOT THE 1ST DOWN TO THE 40! Dunn to the 50! Dunn down the sideline to the 40, Dunn to the 30- HE SEPARATES! He's to the 20, the 10, the 5, TOUCHDOWN, FLORIDA STATE! WARRICK DUNN ON 3RD DOWN! UNBELIEVABLE!"
--Gene Deckerhoff, on Charlie Ward's pass to Warrick Dunn for a 79 yard touchdown to seal it vs. Florida in 1993 and send FSU to the '93 Championship game, which FSU won by a score of 18-16 over Nebraska.
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Dubby
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Posted - 07/29/2010 :  12:25:07  Show Profile Send Dubby a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by *MVP* Aloha Nole

I honestly think Osbourne's retirement announcement had much more to do with the Husker's receiveing a share of the title that season than all other factors that have been discussed here. It's funny, but Michigan was a clear cut #1 in both polls until Dr. Tom's announcement. Most people seemed to consider the Mizzou game a loss before that.

I'm not sure why, but I fully expected that after the season ended, and Nebraska had their split title, that Osbourne would announce "that after careful consideration during the off-season and tryig to imagine my life after football, that I cannot leave Coaching at this point."



Agreed on both counts.

I actually thought the retirement announcement played a larger part than Frost and other NB players whinnying about teams were afraid to play them off their last two games and not their entire body of work for 1997.

Gilbert Cavs team President owns Fathead and he lowered the price on Lebron fathead to $17.41. The significance of 1741 was that was the year Benedict Arnold was born.
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Dubby
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Posted - 07/29/2010 :  12:35:53  Show Profile Send Dubby a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by observer50

quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

quote:
Originally posted by Irishmark

quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/more/07/26/most.hated.teams2/

SI updated their top 25 Most Hated Teams of All Time which now includes the 2010-2011 Miami Heat at 25.

They have 15 2005 SC and couple of Miami teams 1-1986 and 11-1990, teams as well other assorted members none not of much a surprise.

The surprise for me IMO.

17 1993 Notre Dame football

I could see 1977

Also where's Nebraska 1997



Dubby,

Both of the examples given hurt your Penn State Lions.

I don't know why they specifically singled out 1993.

Also, I wouldn't see Nebraska there at all.

interesting that Jimmie Johnson is #1 and #3.



1997 Nebraska pulled a win from the jaws of certain defeat with the come from behind miracle in Columbia infamous batted and kicked football which touched the ground and caught for the tying TD to send the game into OT. Nebraska won 45-38. Two weeks later Nebraska once again had to pull victory from the Jaws of certain defeat Vs 5-5 Colorado pulling the game out 27-24.

Nebraska throttled Texas A&M 54-15 and Tennessee 42-17 and proceeded to whine their way into split National title with Michigan. Nebraska got the Sears Trophy.

Michigan on the other hand beat 10-3 Ohio St, 8-5 Wisconsin team and 11-1 Wazzu in the Rose Bowl down the stretch. No miracle comebacks or poor efforts Vs sub .500 team. Their thanks was Nebraska was able to whine their way into split National title with them talking about the past two games they'd played. While ignoring they fact they were almost beaten in two of last three regular season games they played. Also lost in the Nebraska whine and cheese was an early season struggle at home Vs 5-6 UCF lead by one Duante Culpepper. Nebraska won 38-24 in game that was in doubt until late.

I'm firm believer in you should look at the entire body of work and not just the last game or two played for saying this clearly shows as the best team in the country.

That's why I mentioned 1997 Nebraska.

Sorry bob. I didn't buy Nebraska was best team in 1997 and whinnying about who would you want to play off the Tennessee and aTm games while ignoring the UCF, Missouri and Colorado games. The CU and Mizzou games all came couple weeks prior to the aTm game.





In fairness, Michigan struggled mightily against 4-1 Iowa, who finished the season at 7-5. It took a touchdown with under 3 minutes left to beat them 28-24.

IMO, Nebraska disqualfied themselves from consideration with the Missouri game. Not only did it take an illegal play to get them to tie the game, going to overtime is a no-no for me. An overtime win for an undefeated team is a partital blemish to me, as is an overtime loss not as bad.

What's funny about that year is that at the time most people were pretty sure that Michigan was the better team. In retro, people only remember the close bowl game Michigan had, and Nebraska's blow out and people think Nebraska would have won easily. People tend to remember just your last game, a phenomenon we witness this year with Terrell Pryor.



I agree as that's why I said look at team entire body of work for the season.

IMO, over the years the pollesters even pre BCS put too much stock into bowl game teams had an entire month to prepare for as proper guage for being the best in the land.

A further dig at Nebraska their 1999 team whined also about deserving a shot at FSU and made up shirts boldly proclaiming anytime, anywhere.

This time you had a Nebraska team that had lost to Texas during the regular season and was Colorado Missed FG away from losing that game they once again had to rally to win 33-30 after blowing a big lead.

But, here they were again off beating Tennessee 31-21 this time claiming they deserved a shot a Florida State National Champions in 1999.

Right a 1 loss Nebraska team who should have loss to Colorado deserver a MNC shot at FSU over undefeated Va-Tech.

IMO, either would have moped the field with Nebraska in 1999.

Gilbert Cavs team President owns Fathead and he lowered the price on Lebron fathead to $17.41. The significance of 1741 was that was the year Benedict Arnold was born.
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observer50
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quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

quote:
Originally posted by observer50

quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

quote:
Originally posted by Irishmark

quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/more/07/26/most.hated.teams2/

SI updated their top 25 Most Hated Teams of All Time which now includes the 2010-2011 Miami Heat at 25.

They have 15 2005 SC and couple of Miami teams 1-1986 and 11-1990, teams as well other assorted members none not of much a surprise.

The surprise for me IMO.

17 1993 Notre Dame football

I could see 1977

Also where's Nebraska 1997



Dubby,

Both of the examples given hurt your Penn State Lions.

I don't know why they specifically singled out 1993.

Also, I wouldn't see Nebraska there at all.

interesting that Jimmie Johnson is #1 and #3.



1997 Nebraska pulled a win from the jaws of certain defeat with the come from behind miracle in Columbia infamous batted and kicked football which touched the ground and caught for the tying TD to send the game into OT. Nebraska won 45-38. Two weeks later Nebraska once again had to pull victory from the Jaws of certain defeat Vs 5-5 Colorado pulling the game out 27-24.

Nebraska throttled Texas A&M 54-15 and Tennessee 42-17 and proceeded to whine their way into split National title with Michigan. Nebraska got the Sears Trophy.

Michigan on the other hand beat 10-3 Ohio St, 8-5 Wisconsin team and 11-1 Wazzu in the Rose Bowl down the stretch. No miracle comebacks or poor efforts Vs sub .500 team. Their thanks was Nebraska was able to whine their way into split National title with them talking about the past two games they'd played. While ignoring they fact they were almost beaten in two of last three regular season games they played. Also lost in the Nebraska whine and cheese was an early season struggle at home Vs 5-6 UCF lead by one Duante Culpepper. Nebraska won 38-24 in game that was in doubt until late.

I'm firm believer in you should look at the entire body of work and not just the last game or two played for saying this clearly shows as the best team in the country.

That's why I mentioned 1997 Nebraska.

Sorry bob. I didn't buy Nebraska was best team in 1997 and whinnying about who would you want to play off the Tennessee and aTm games while ignoring the UCF, Missouri and Colorado games. The CU and Mizzou games all came couple weeks prior to the aTm game.





In fairness, Michigan struggled mightily against 4-1 Iowa, who finished the season at 7-5. It took a touchdown with under 3 minutes left to beat them 28-24.

IMO, Nebraska disqualfied themselves from consideration with the Missouri game. Not only did it take an illegal play to get them to tie the game, going to overtime is a no-no for me. An overtime win for an undefeated team is a partital blemish to me, as is an overtime loss not as bad.

What's funny about that year is that at the time most people were pretty sure that Michigan was the better team. In retro, people only remember the close bowl game Michigan had, and Nebraska's blow out and people think Nebraska would have won easily. People tend to remember just your last game, a phenomenon we witness this year with Terrell Pryor.



I agree as that's why I said look at team entire body of work for the season.

IMO, over the years the pollesters even pre BCS put too much stock into bowl game teams had an entire month to prepare for as proper guage for being the best in the land.

A further dig at Nebraska their 1999 team whined also about deserving a shot at FSU and made up shirts boldly proclaiming anytime, anywhere.

This time you had a Nebraska team that had lost to Texas during the regular season and was Colorado Missed FG away from losing that game they once again had to rally to win 33-30 after blowing a big lead.

But, here they were again off beating Tennessee 31-21 this time claiming they deserved a shot a Florida State National Champions in 1999.

Right a 1 loss Nebraska team who should have loss to Colorado deserver a MNC shot at FSU over undefeated Va-Tech.

IMO, either would have moped the field with Nebraska in 1999.



Yeah, I agree.

As for Osbourne's retirement, we can only speculate, but when you consider that Michigan only needed a couple more votes, and that a lot of coaches respected Osbourne, that if not for the retirement, Michigan would have won the coaches' as well.

As for me, the dual poll system has always been kind of an equalizer. It allows for slack in an imperfect system. I wish Auburn in 2004 and Penn State in 1994 would have gotten the same break Nebraska got.
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Dubby
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Posted - 07/29/2010 :  14:48:20  Show Profile Send Dubby a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by observer50


As for me, the dual poll system has always been kind of an equalizer. It allows for slack in an imperfect system. I wish Auburn in 2004 and Penn State in 1994 would have gotten the same break Nebraska got.



That's one of my grips with the splits over the years.

I agree both Auburn 2004 and Penn St 1994 should have gotten similar consideration Nebraska got.

My biggest issues with Nebraska was whinnying and using the recents games as reason for inclusion when IMO, in 1997 the Mizzou and Colorado should have counted as losses comparing to another undefeated team for final polls. The fact both games happened late in season was another sore point with me over the whinnying about them being the best team for beating Tennessee. No great shock seeing UT was blasted 33-20 by Florida earlier in the season.

Gilbert Cavs team President owns Fathead and he lowered the price on Lebron fathead to $17.41. The significance of 1741 was that was the year Benedict Arnold was born.

Edited by - Dubby on 07/29/2010 16:19:34
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Plbbt. That list should have 24 New York Yankees teams (pick any years) and the 1986 New York Mets.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mikie

Plbbt. That list should have 24 New York Yankees teams (pick any years) and the 1986 New York Mets.



Come on, Mikie. I know you really like the "Yank Mes"!!!

Pictures never lie...



"Ward. Takes the snap. Play action. Drops, looks, popped out of the pocket. Runs to his left, throws it downfield it is CAUGHT BY DUNN, HE'S GOT THE 1ST DOWN TO THE 40! Dunn to the 50! Dunn down the sideline to the 40, Dunn to the 30- HE SEPARATES! He's to the 20, the 10, the 5, TOUCHDOWN, FLORIDA STATE! WARRICK DUNN ON 3RD DOWN! UNBELIEVABLE!"
--Gene Deckerhoff, on Charlie Ward's pass to Warrick Dunn for a 79 yard touchdown to seal it vs. Florida in 1993 and send FSU to the '93 Championship game, which FSU won by a score of 18-16 over Nebraska.
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We're #1. Hated by many, loved by few there is only one school known as the U!
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quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

quote:
Originally posted by Irishmark

quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/more/07/26/most.hated.teams2/

SI updated their top 25 Most Hated Teams of All Time which now includes the 2010-2011 Miami Heat at 25.

They have 15 2005 SC and couple of Miami teams 1-1986 and 11-1990, teams as well other assorted members none not of much a surprise.

The surprise for me IMO.

17 1993 Notre Dame football

I could see 1977

Also where's Nebraska 1997



Dubby,

Both of the examples given hurt your Penn State Lions.

I don't know why they specifically singled out 1993.

Also, I wouldn't see Nebraska there at all.

interesting that Jimmie Johnson is #1 and #3.



1997 Nebraska pulled a win from the jaws of certain defeat with the come from behind miracle in Columbia infamous batted and kicked football which touched the ground and caught for the tying TD to send the game into OT. Nebraska won 45-38. Two weeks later Nebraska once again had to pull victory from the Jaws of certain defeat Vs 5-5 Colorado pulling the game out 27-24.

Nebraska throttled Texas A&M 54-15 and Tennessee 42-17 and proceeded to whine their way into split National title with Michigan. Nebraska got the Sears Trophy.

Michigan on the other hand beat 10-3 Ohio St, 8-5 Wisconsin team and 11-1 Wazzu in the Rose Bowl down the stretch. No miracle comebacks or poor efforts Vs sub .500 team. Their thanks was Nebraska was able to whine their way into split National title with them talking about the past two games they'd played. While ignoring they fact they were almost beaten in two of last three regular season games they played. Also lost in the Nebraska whine and cheese was an early season struggle at home Vs 5-6 UCF lead by one Duante Culpepper. Nebraska won 38-24 in game that was in doubt until late.

I'm firm believer in you should look at the entire body of work and not just the last game or two played for saying this clearly shows as the best team in the country.

That's why I mentioned 1997 Nebraska.

Sorry bob. I didn't buy Nebraska was best team in 1997 and whinnying about who would you want to play off the Tennessee and aTm games while ignoring the UCF, Missouri and Colorado games. The CU and Mizzou games all came couple weeks prior to the aTm game.




I think Michigan was very fortunate they didn't play Nebraska that year. My opinion has a lot to do with that Iowa game, but also the makeup of the Big10 that year. Iowa was the only decent rushing team in the conference and gave Michigan all kinds of trouble. Michigan's defense would not have held up well against Nebraska, especially in the 4th quarter. Nebraska's defense had no problem with Mr. Manning though. The match-up would not have favored Michigan.

As for the voting, I have no doubt the retirement announcement was a strong factor in Nebraska getting a share of the MNC. It would be interesting to see what would have happened had he not retired though.

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quote:
Originally posted by bob

quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

quote:
Originally posted by Irishmark

quote:
Originally posted by Dubby

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/more/07/26/most.hated.teams2/

SI updated their top 25 Most Hated Teams of All Time which now includes the 2010-2011 Miami Heat at 25.

They have 15 2005 SC and couple of Miami teams 1-1986 and 11-1990, teams as well other assorted members none not of much a surprise.

The surprise for me IMO.

17 1993 Notre Dame football

I could see 1977

Also where's Nebraska 1997



Dubby,

Both of the examples given hurt your Penn State Lions.

I don't know why they specifically singled out 1993.

Also, I wouldn't see Nebraska there at all.

interesting that Jimmie Johnson is #1 and #3.



1997 Nebraska pulled a win from the jaws of certain defeat with the come from behind miracle in Columbia infamous batted and kicked football which touched the ground and caught for the tying TD to send the game into OT. Nebraska won 45-38. Two weeks later Nebraska once again had to pull victory from the Jaws of certain defeat Vs 5-5 Colorado pulling the game out 27-24.

Nebraska throttled Texas A&M 54-15 and Tennessee 42-17 and proceeded to whine their way into split National title with Michigan. Nebraska got the Sears Trophy.

Michigan on the other hand beat 10-3 Ohio St, 8-5 Wisconsin team and 11-1 Wazzu in the Rose Bowl down the stretch. No miracle comebacks or poor efforts Vs sub .500 team. Their thanks was Nebraska was able to whine their way into split National title with them talking about the past two games they'd played. While ignoring they fact they were almost beaten in two of last three regular season games they played. Also lost in the Nebraska whine and cheese was an early season struggle at home Vs 5-6 UCF lead by one Duante Culpepper. Nebraska won 38-24 in game that was in doubt until late.

I'm firm believer in you should look at the entire body of work and not just the last game or two played for saying this clearly shows as the best team in the country.

That's why I mentioned 1997 Nebraska.

Sorry bob. I didn't buy Nebraska was best team in 1997 and whinnying about who would you want to play off the Tennessee and aTm games while ignoring the UCF, Missouri and Colorado games. The CU and Mizzou games all came couple weeks prior to the aTm game.




I think Michigan was very fortunate they didn't play Nebraska that year. My opinion has a lot to do with that Iowa game, but also the makeup of the Big10 that year. Iowa was the only decent rushing team in the conference and gave Michigan all kinds of trouble. Michigan's defense would not have held up well against Nebraska, especially in the 4th quarter. Nebraska's defense had no problem with Mr. Manning though. The match-up would not have favored Michigan.

As for the voting, I have no doubt the retirement announcement was a strong factor in Nebraska getting a share of the MNC. It would be interesting to see what would have happened had he not retired though.



Allow me to inject some reality into your fantasy here.

That "all kinds of trouble" your in-depth analysis mentioned was a total of 101 yards on the ground for Iowa. This included a 53-yard touchdown run where Banks got through the line. Despite getting 53 yards on that gain, he still couldn't get 100 yards for the day. Your claim that Michigan had trouble with the running game is a figment of your imagination.

Iowa scored 21 points in the second quarter. There was the 53 yard touchdown run, a 61 yard punt return and a 1 yard scoring drive after an interception.


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Iowa got 4 first downs on the ground in the game, and 7 total.
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