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Re: Another reason for the Patriots to hate Miami - Kraft bu

Postby Iconoclast » March 1st, 2019, 6:44 pm

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Re: Another reason for the Patriots to hate Miami - Kraft bu

Postby Iconoclast » March 19th, 2019, 7:38 pm

What to do, what to do? Kraft offered plea deal, and it seems pretty much in line with with this crime. However having to go to a class on prostitution seems belittling, although probably appropriate. The 100 hours of community service is a bitch for a guy who likely makes more per hour doing what he does than most of the other folks charged combined. And the testing for STDs - :lol: . I tell you, those to cut rate BJs ended up costing him way more than a Manhattan escort.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-florida-prosecutors-offer-robert-kraft-deal-to-drop-solicitation-charges-173620196.html


Prosecutors in Palm Beach County, Florida, have offered New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft a chance to avoid prosecution for soliciting prostitution and having his charges dropped, the Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday.

Called deferred prosecution, it would require that Kraft admit that he could be proved guilty at trial.

Kraft is not the only man charged who has been presented with this offer, the WSJ reports.

It is unclear whether Kraft will accept the agreement.

The proposed deferred prosecution deal comes with caveats: completion of an education course about prostitution, 100 hours of community service, screening for sexually transmitted diseases and payment of some court costs.

But Kraft and his attorney would also review the evidence in the case and agree that if it were to go to trial, the state would be able to prove guilt.

Kraft has been charged with two counts of soliciting prostitution; he was one of several men charged after a months-long investigation by Jupiter police, who were looking into alleged human trafficking.

A statement from a Kraft spokesman at the time of the charges being announced proclaimed his innocence.

Jupiter police say they have Kraft on surveillance video entering Orchids of Asia day spa, paying for services and receiving oral sex on two occasions, including on the day of the AFC championship game.

If Kraft accepted the deal and charges are dropped, he could still be punished by the NFL under the personal conduct policy. The league has reinforced that the policy applies to all members of the league, including team owners.

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Re: Another reason for the Patriots to hate Miami - Kraft bu

Postby bigearl » March 20th, 2019, 1:00 pm

Iconoclast wrote:What to do, what to do? Kraft offered plea deal, and it seems pretty much in line with with this crime. However having to go to a class on prostitution seems belittling, although probably appropriate. The 100 hours of community service is a bitch for a guy who likely makes more per hour doing what he does than most of the other folks charged combined. And the testing for STDs - :lol: . I tell you, those to cut rate BJs ended up costing him way more than a Manhattan escort.



I can't imagine they thought he'd accept that deal. His lawyers are gonna tear the case to shreds. I understand public perception will be there, but legally he'll "get off" - badump bump.

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Re: Another reason for the Patriots to hate Miami - Kraft bu

Postby Dubby » March 21st, 2019, 11:10 am

bigearl wrote:
Iconoclast wrote:What to do, what to do? Kraft offered plea deal, and it seems pretty much in line with with this crime. However having to go to a class on prostitution seems belittling, although probably appropriate. The 100 hours of community service is a bitch for a guy who likely makes more per hour doing what he does than most of the other folks charged combined. And the testing for STDs - :lol: . I tell you, those to cut rate BJs ended up costing him way more than a Manhattan escort.



I can't imagine they thought he'd accept that deal. His lawyers are gonna tear the case to shreds. I understand public perception will be there, but legally he'll "get off" - badump bump.



Jupiter police say they have Kraft on surveillance video entering Orchids of Asia day spa, paying for services and receiving oral sex on two occasions, including on the day of the AFC championship game.


Unless they evidence like this suppressed which they're attempting to do

I wouldn't go betting the farm they're going rip this case to shreds

He got caught in sting operation where they we going after this SPA operator and others for human trafficking along with running illegal brothels

I believe he being dumb for not accepting a deal.
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Re: Another reason for the Patriots to hate Miami - Kraft bu

Postby bigearl » March 21st, 2019, 12:13 pm

Dubby wrote:

Jupiter police say they have Kraft on surveillance video entering Orchids of Asia day spa, paying for services and receiving oral sex on two occasions, including on the day of the AFC championship game.


Unless they evidence like this suppressed which they're attempting to do

I wouldn't go betting the farm they're going rip this case to shreds

He got caught in sting operation where they we going after this SPA operator and others for human trafficking along with running illegal brothels

I believe he being dumb for not accepting a deal.


True.. but they also pulled over the car he was a passenger in to id him. Turns out you can't pull a car over for no reason to id a passenger.. ;) That will be thrown out, so in reality they won't be able to ID that he was there... thus the reason I think he ends up not even being charged... technicality.. sure, but terrible police work. They've also since proven that there was no human trafficking at that particular establishment. The only thing that would hurt him at this point would be TMZ getting a hold of the video. (not legally, just in the court of public opinion).

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Re: Another reason for the Patriots to hate Miami - Kraft bu

Postby Iconoclast » March 21st, 2019, 1:27 pm

He doesn't deserve much punishment so if it gets thrown out, no big deal. The worst that they could do to him if he is convicted is a fine, some community service and some counseling. The worst damage is already done. People are convinced he was there and got a couple of BJs. Everyone can make fun of him for getting cut rate sex. Truthfully, they should make it legal and regulate it and tax it, but that's my opinion.
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Re: Another reason for the Patriots to hate Miami - Kraft bu

Postby bigearl » March 21st, 2019, 1:52 pm

Iconoclast wrote: Everyone can make fun of him for getting cut rate sex.


All I can picture is the "Mayhem" guy reading that line.. :lol:

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Re: Another reason for the Patriots to hate Miami - Kraft bu

Postby Iconoclast » March 21st, 2019, 3:01 pm

bigearl wrote:
Iconoclast wrote: Everyone can make fun of him for getting cut rate sex.


All I can picture is the "Mayhem" guy reading that line.. :lol:


Indeed. "If you get cut rate sex, you could get caught up in a sting, like me."
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Re: Another reason for the Patriots to hate Miami - Kraft bu

Postby Dubby » March 21st, 2019, 3:16 pm

bigearl wrote:
Dubby wrote:

Jupiter police say they have Kraft on surveillance video entering Orchids of Asia day spa, paying for services and receiving oral sex on two occasions, including on the day of the AFC championship game.


Unless they evidence like this suppressed which they're attempting to do

I wouldn't go betting the farm they're going rip this case to shreds

He got caught in sting operation where they we going after this SPA operator and others for human trafficking along with running illegal brothels

I believe he being dumb for not accepting a deal.


True.. but they also pulled over the car he was a passenger in to id him. Turns out you can't pull a car over for no reason to id a passenger.. ;) That will be thrown out, so in reality they won't be able to ID that he was there... thus the reason I think he ends up not even being charged... technicality.. sure, but terrible police work. They've also since proven that there was no human trafficking at that particular establishment. The only thing that would hurt him at this point would be TMZ getting a hold of the video. (not legally, just in the court of public opinion).


Where has human trafficking been disproved? These places are notorious for bringing illegals from their countries of origins and forcing them to work for little or nothing in these places.
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Re: Another reason for the Patriots to hate Miami - Kraft bu

Postby Iconoclast » March 22nd, 2019, 12:52 pm

While Kraft may keep the tapes private during the investigation, once a verdict is reached, it's likely the tapes will be made public. They are a matter of public record and if People or TMZ or ... petition to have them released, they will likely be released. Again, this is a misdemeanor and the punishment for a first time offender should be pretty light, although they have him doing it twice. The NFL however will likely bring a large fine and a suspension.
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