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Irishmark
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 Posted - 07/31/2010 : 19:01:15
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9 Scout Top 100 recruits have committed.
We have 3 spots left.
That myth that he can't recruit big talent is wrong!
He's doing a great job so far.
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Irishmark
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Posted - 07/31/2010 : 22:11:25
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And he's not just getting elite players. He's getting them where the biggest needs are.
Last February he signed 5 star Defensive Tackle Lewis Nix as well as another DT. This year so far he has 7 Defensive Ends or Hybrid Linebackers. He's rebuilding the defense from the inside out.
Weis went after stars (offensive) players. Kelly is recruiting needs. But they're still top quality. |
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eric
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 08:40:35
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| Has Kelly been slammed in the past for not being able to recruit? Did't know that. I do realize that at his last couple of schools, getting the kind of players that ND and other top programs routinely get would be near impossible. If that is the slam against him, then anyone could lay that criticism on coaches at places like Utah, or Boise State, or TCU. Now that he's at ND, it doesn't surprise me at all that Kelly is getting some big boys to commit. And if he can take the team to great heights in 2010, I think he opens the floodgates. |
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Domer
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 09:17:18
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Originally posted by eric
Has Kelly been slammed in the past for not being able to recruit? Did't know that. I do realize that at his last couple of schools, getting the kind of players that ND and other top programs routinely get would be near impossible. If that is the slam against him, then anyone could lay that criticism on coaches at places like Utah, or Boise State, or TCU. Now that he's at ND, it doesn't surprise me at all that Kelly is getting some big boys to commit. And if he can take the team to great heights in 2010, I think he opens the floodgates.
Yeah. I only hope ND has a good year in 2010 for many reasons, but recruiting is one of the many.
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Irishmark
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 09:22:59
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Originally posted by eric
Has Kelly been slammed in the past for not being able to recruit? Did't know that. I do realize that at his last couple of schools, getting the kind of players that ND and other top programs routinely get would be near impossible. If that is the slam against him, then anyone could lay that criticism on coaches at places like Utah, or Boise State, or TCU. Now that he's at ND, it doesn't surprise me at all that Kelly is getting some big boys to commit. And if he can take the team to great heights in 2010, I think he opens the floodgates.
That's one of the criticisms.
Also his use of the term "RKG" at his opening press conference. RKG stands for "Right kind of guy". ND fans seem to think that means Ivy League type players.
Dayne Crist is an RKG. |
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eric
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 11:14:03
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Originally posted by Irishmark
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Originally posted by eric
Has Kelly been slammed in the past for not being able to recruit? Did't know that. I do realize that at his last couple of schools, getting the kind of players that ND and other top programs routinely get would be near impossible. If that is the slam against him, then anyone could lay that criticism on coaches at places like Utah, or Boise State, or TCU. Now that he's at ND, it doesn't surprise me at all that Kelly is getting some big boys to commit. And if he can take the team to great heights in 2010, I think he opens the floodgates.
That's one of the criticisms.
Also his use of the term "RKG" at his opening press conference. RKG stands for "Right kind of guy". ND fans seem to think that means Ivy League type players.
Dayne Crist is an RKG.
Crist seems like a stand-up guy both on and off the field. I hope he does well this year--he's waited in the wings long enough for his chance. Maybe Kelly coming along is the best thing that could have happened to him even if it was Weis who recruited him. |
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Irishmark
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 19:32:41
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Originally posted by eric
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Originally posted by Irishmark
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Originally posted by eric
Has Kelly been slammed in the past for not being able to recruit? Did't know that. I do realize that at his last couple of schools, getting the kind of players that ND and other top programs routinely get would be near impossible. If that is the slam against him, then anyone could lay that criticism on coaches at places like Utah, or Boise State, or TCU. Now that he's at ND, it doesn't surprise me at all that Kelly is getting some big boys to commit. And if he can take the team to great heights in 2010, I think he opens the floodgates.
That's one of the criticisms.
Also his use of the term "RKG" at his opening press conference. RKG stands for "Right kind of guy". ND fans seem to think that means Ivy League type players.
Dayne Crist is an RKG.
Crist seems like a stand-up guy both on and off the field. I hope he does well this year--he's waited in the wings long enough for his chance. Maybe Kelly coming along is the best thing that could have happened to him even if it was Weis who recruited him.
If Crist had been given a fair shot to beat out Clausen, we wouldn't have been wondering about leadership issues from the ND quarterback.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-07-31/sports/ct-spt-0801-notre-dame-dayne-crist--20100730_1_dayne-crist-guglielmino-athletics-complex-notre-dame-qb |
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Domer
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BullGator
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Posted - 08/03/2010 : 11:43:12
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Crist seems like a great kid.
On the recruiting thing, I really think watching early commitments is a dangerous proposition. Until we get to the end of the high school football season, I think very, very few kids are actually solid. |
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*YNC* MikeTheTiger
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Posted - 08/03/2010 : 11:50:18
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On the recruiting thing, I really think watching early commitments is a dangerous proposition. Until we get to the end of the high school football season, I think very, very few kids are actually solid.
I would agree with that for the most part, though I believe that most early commitments to an in-state school are pretty solid. I wouldn't expect many of the LA prospects committed to LSU or TX prospects committed to Texas to de-commit at this point, for example. |
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BullGator
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Posted - 08/03/2010 : 13:12:41
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| MTT: While the likelihood of "defection" seems to go down in those circumstances, in today's environment, I think if a kid is a 5* (and to a lesser extent a 4*), then it really seems to be "all bets are off" until at least Jan/Feb. |
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*YNC* MikeTheTiger
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Posted - 08/03/2010 : 13:24:00
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Originally posted by BullGator
MTT: While the likelihood of "defection" seems to go down in those circumstances, in today's environment, I think if a kid is a 5* (and to a lesser extent a 4*), then it really seems to be "all bets are off" until at least Jan/Feb.
I would agree that a 5* or 4* in today's environment is less likely to sign with the in-state school, but in most of the cases where they go elsewhere they don't commit early in the first place. I can't remember the last time LSU had a highly recruited in-state player de-commit. The only instance I recall was a year LSU ended up with commitments from 3 QBs (JaMarcus Russell and Matt Flynn were the other two) and Robert Lane felt like LSU had promised him they would only sign 2 QBs, so he de-committed and went to Ole Miss. |
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Domer
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Posted - 08/03/2010 : 13:26:53
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And this has what to do with Brian Kelly?
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Irishmark
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Posted - 08/03/2010 : 14:30:48
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And this has what to do with Brian Kelly?
Fred has bought into Urban's belief that taking ND's commitments away is acceptable. |
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Irishmark
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Posted - 08/03/2010 : 14:31:58
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Crist seems like a great kid.
On the recruiting thing, I really think watching early commitments is a dangerous proposition. Until we get to the end of the high school football season, I think very, very few kids are actually solid.
Which is why I am for an early signing period. |
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BullGator
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Posted - 08/03/2010 : 16:13:09
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I-Mark: Actually, I'd take the exact opposite stance on the same issue...I'd further limit and restrict access to these kids earlier on so that they aren't making "commitments" about which they may not fully be informed/ready to make. Not to re-hash that whole other thread, but I really don't see how an early signing period solves the problem of kids not staying committed unless you're going to penalize the kids in some way if they change their mind...and do we really want to get into the business of punishing 17 and 18 year-olds for not being totally sure about what is probably the most important decision of their life to date?
Domer: Only in that it goes to the claim in the title of the thread...we'll know a lot better whether or not Kelly "can recruit" (on a premier program level) in February of 2011 than we will in August of 2010. |
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